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Pyro maniac · Jan 23, 2008, 12:04 PM // 12:04

Looking at PvE, what is the most common used SY/TNTF paragon?
Currently using this build atm, but maybe I'm missing something:

[skill]Focused Anger[/skill][skill]"Shields Up!"[/skill][skill]"Go For The Eyes!"[/skill][skill]aggressive refrain[/skill][skill]Spear of Lightning[/skill]Save Yourselves, Theres Nothing To Fear[skill]Signet of Return[/skill]

with shields up being the swappable skill if there isn't that much threat from rangers.

Wakka · Jan 23, 2008, 12:38 PM // 12:38

Seems grand to me, maybe the only change I would make is SoL out for [skill=text]Vicious Attack[/skill] but maybe thats just me suppose its down to your personal preferance but it just seems like a better skill to me.

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with shields up being the swappable skill if there isn't that much threat from rangers.

Just remember that Ranger's aren't the only enemies that use projectiles ^_^

Pyro maniac · Jan 23, 2008, 12:40 PM // 12:40

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Originally Posted by Wakka

Seems grand to me, maybe the only change I would make is SoL out for [skill=text]Vicious Attack

but maybe thats just me suppose its down to your personal preferance but it just seems like a better skill to me.

Just remember that Ranger's aren't the only enemies that use projectiles ^_^

wand spike is very dangerous

meh, you're right. Para's too =)

Wakka · Jan 23, 2008, 12:41 PM // 12:41

Wand spike in HM rocks lol

Also a lot of monster's just attack using projectiles weather it be a bow or spear im not sure.

If your investing points in Tactics to use Shields up, consider [skill=text]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] also

Trx · Jan 23, 2008, 01:26 PM // 13:26

Watch Yourself doesnt stack with SY so it wouldn't do much. If you run SY you pretty much want SY to be the only adrenal skill on your bar unless you have a really high alliance rank, so it's up (almost) 100% of the time.

If you hate waiting for timers you could add [skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill] so you have double adrenaline gain 100% of the time instead of 75%.

erfweiss · Jan 23, 2008, 01:37 PM // 13:37

One attack skill not to overlook is Spear of Fury. Seeing how this attack gives you strikes of Adrenaline (along with decent damage), I make sure to keep this on my bar.

Note: I bring this with a Sabs Minion bomber, so I almost always meet the condition requirements for the adrenaline.

kobey · Jan 23, 2008, 01:58 PM // 13:58

some pve skills to consider adding will be Ebon Battle Standard of Honor or "I Am The Strongest!"

knoll · Jan 23, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22

Shouldn't have GFTE as it eats up adrenaline for SY!

kobey · Jan 23, 2008, 03:40 PM // 15:40

I find GFTE useful in some situations. Some example i find it good is when you need energy at certain point of time to cast spells like TNTF (when Quickening Zephyr spirit is up) or you get urself e drained for some reasons.

Not to mention GFTE itself is useful. But other than the stated reasons, its always best to keep "save yorselves" up over GFTE.

Racthoh · Jan 23, 2008, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by kobey

I find GFTE useful in some situations. Some example i find it good is when you need energy at certain point of time to cast spells like TNTF (when Quickening Zephyr spirit is up) or you get urself e drained for some reasons.

You have a spear, get on spirit patrol! And you always have 4 weapon sets use one for +energy.

Arkantos · Jan 23, 2008, 06:36 PM // 18:36

You want SY to be the only adrenaline skill on your bar, because everything else will keep it from going up, and you want it up as much as possible. I'd replace gfte with FGJ, so you'll be getting double adrenaline 100% of the time.

Faith Falls Fast · Jan 23, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

[skill]Vicious Attack[/skill][skill]Spear of Fury[/skill][skill]Aggressive Refrain[/skill][skill]"Save Yourselves!"[/skill][skill]"There's Nothing To Fear!"[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Focused Anger[/skill][skill]Signet of Return[/skill]

What I use for a standard "SY!" build.

I also have Morgahn and Hayda with me as well, both with a GFTE, thus the reason for Vicious Attack.

XiaoTheBlade · Jan 23, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

Enduring Harmony
FGJ
Soldier's Fury
Blazing Spear
Spear of fury
TNTF
SY
*optional* - atm I use fall back.

12+1+1 spear
11+1 lead
6+1 command if taking fall back

Pyro maniac · Jan 23, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

ty all

12345 ^^

neoflame · Jan 23, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by Faith Falls Fast

[skill]Vicious Attack[/skill][skill]Spear of Fury[/skill][skill]Aggressive Refrain[/skill][skill]"Save Yourselves!"[/skill][skill]"There's Nothing To Fear!"[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Focused Anger[/skill][skill]Signet of Return[/skill]

I run this exact build, but with Spear of Lightning in place of Vicious Attack, since I don't have EotN and Morgahn is specced as a motigon (weak "GftE!").

Racthoh · Jan 23, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

I feel no need to run the hard res on the SY gon unless I am using an Essence of Celerity (allows you to maintain 100% adrenaline gain with just Focused Anger, FGJ -> Signet of Return). If something died do you really think that is the best time to stop giving the party +100 AL while you res?

Bobby2 · Jan 23, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

Another shout out to Spear of Fury

Faith Falls Fast · Jan 23, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

I feel no need to run the hard res on the SY gon unless I am using an Essence of Celerity (allows you to maintain 100% adrenaline gain with just Focused Anger, FGJ -> Signet of Return). If something died do you really think that is the best time to stop giving the party +100 AL while you res?

This is true.

neoflame · Jan 23, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Oh, I missed that. I don't run a hard rez either, but I also tend not to run a rez at all; IME heroes and henches will have started casting their rezsigs before you've had a chance to notice someone dying. Anthem of Flame goes in that slot, because I'm too cheap to buy Morgahn a Leadership rune so I can keep Aggressive Refrain up with just TNtF.